-back to similarminds.com &npsb&npsb&npsb &npsb&npsb&npsb&npsb&npsb&npsb &npsb&npsb&npsb [archive]  

Personality Research articles on personality

30Nov/0952

SimilarMinds Personality Descriptions are TOO Negative!?

I occasionally get angry missives from people complaining about how negative some of the personality descriptions on SimilarMinds are.

All the personality type descriptions on this site are entirely composed of personality items each type (i.e. the aggregate of people that scored like you) self rated highest on compared to the average. To clarify further, one of the descriptions on the RLUEI page is "not usually happy".  The source of the description is the personality item "I am unhappy". 645 test takers that scored as RLUEI had a self rating average of 2.34 (on a 0-4 likert scale) on that item. The average of all test takers was 1.32, so RLUEIs scored significantly higher on that item.

In fact that item had one of the highest type vs. average differences (D-score), hence it's inclusion at the beginning of the description. (The order of descriptions is entirely determined by D-scores.)  This can mean that an item with a seemingly average score of 2.0 for example could show up first, if the D-score is sufficiently high. On the personality item "I don't like happy people" RLUEIs self rate as 1.51. That number could be described as low, but the average score on that item is .7, much lower, resulting in a D-score of .81. So despite a seemingly low score, that is a very meaningful  RLUEI item.

The highest scoring item for RLUEIs is "I love music". The average score is 3.58 on that item. That undoubtedly is very high. It's not included in the RLUEI description though. The reason is every one else apparently also likes music. The average score overall on that item is 3.62, so the RLUEI D-score of that item is very low. Liking music is just not very descriptive of the unique personality of RLUEIs.

I've added a note on the description pages to hopefully minimize confusion and I'll try to make sure when transcribing description items that they reflect both the D-score and the raw score (i.e. that when an item has a large D-score but a low raw score that is conveyed). Based on the D-score, RLUEIs are not huge fans of happy people, but as the raw score reflects, they don't, on average, dislike happy people.

Additionally, recently I've been working on a new personality system (MOTIV / R-Drive) which profiles people's perceived reward drives, what they think makes (or will make) them happy (regardless of whether it does). One of the drives involves having a sense of identity and enjoyment of living/life. It's called the Vitality drive. Interestingly, I've found that people who score high on Introversion (or Reserved on the SLOAN test) are more likely to have a weak sense of identity, a lower enjoyment of life, and are more likely to hate themselves. They are also more likely to be bitter, defensive, and self deceive. This alone would account for both the more negative introvert self descriptions and the vitriol I occasionally get about that. That's not to say a small percentage of introverts might not be perfectly happy and/or well-adjusted, but that's simply not the case with most people that self rate as reserved, unassertive, private and other traits associated with Introversion by the Big 5 and Myers Briggs personality systems. There also seems to be a clear link between lack of exercise (/poor cardiovascular fitness) and introversion (as well as depression).

Some evidence:

A significant positive relationship has been shown between a predominance of introverted interests (as measured by the E-I Interest test) and the predominance of depression in characteristic affective tone and attitude. (source)

The personality dimension of introversion may be a risk factor for suicidal behaviour in depression. (source)

Normalization of weight in anorexic patients is associated with increased extraversion and more realistic perception of self within a social context, as well as a greater self-doubt and unease. (source)

A growing body of information suggests that core or underlying personality is a significant concomitant of depression and suicidality. Introversion (ie, low extroversion) is especially promising in its relationship to the phenomenology and outcome of depression, and may represent an underlying heritable trait of etiologic significance. (source)

Physically active men (n = 11) have lower depression (scale 2) and lower social introversion (scale 10) than the sedentary men (n = 11). Depression (scale 2) is the most powerful discriminator between physically active and sedentary men, followed by hysteria (scale 3) and social introversion (scale 10). (source)

Adolescents who engaged regularly in physical activity were characterised by lower anxiety-depression scores, and displayed much less social behavioural inhibition than their less active counterparts. (source)

In multivariate analyses, introversion and depression were independently associated with mortality. We conclude that personality introversion and depression are associated with increased mortality following stroke. (source)

Lower depression, social introversion, and psychopathic deviance scores were associated with increased probability of exercising in midlife for both men and women. (source)

The most important predictors for weekly hours of physical activity were the EDI scales “drive for thinness” and “body dissatisfaction”, and the personality variables “extraversion” and “neuroticism”. (source)

As an introvert myself historically, I have to admit to my own history of self uncertainty, self hatred (prior to prioritizing physical fitness more), and poor attention to physical fitness. Of course the MBTI offered self hating introverts a more positive sense of identity, your money is as good as any other client and they want it (also the MBTI developers were probably Feelers/Irrational who value what feels right over what makes sense so they are unlikely to criticize even a serial killer if doing so would make them feel sad). So they tell introverts - you are just different, you recharge alone, you are just pickier about who to be friends with, it's perfectly normal to have anxiety in a crowded area. The reality is that anxiety is not healthy, its symptomatic of a psychological (life trauma) and/or organic health issue (poor cardiovascular fitness).

Based on the actual evidence, I have to conclude that many aspects traditionally associated with introversion are in fact serious dysfunctions linked to poor psychological health and/or poor physical health/fitness. For example, being private can mean being afraid to show others who you really are (often because you don't even know who you are). How anyone could spin that as a positive is testimony to the marketing greed of personality test companies or good intentioned people pleasing of the Accommodating disposition.

Certainly some traits associated with extroversion are linked to their own psychological issues such as external narcissism and materialism. However, Myers Briggs and Big Five extroversion is more associated with Vitality than with what Jungian Introversion/Extroversion which is better captured by the Materialistic drive of the MOTIV system.

Which brings up another flaw regarding Big 5/MBTI Introversion (and Extroversion as well). It's not a distinct type, it's, at best, a classification of a superficial shared behavioral pattern. A useful personality type has one shared motive, a classification is merely a grouping of superficially similar behaving people who lack a shared motive for that superficial behavior (hence my interest in developing a more uni-dimensional drive based personality system).

The Introvert 'class' behave the way they do (quiet, shy, private, etc.) because they...

A. don't know who they are

and/or

B. intentionally want to hide who they are from others (because who they are is unattractive/offensive/etc. to others in perception and/or in reality AND/OR because they perceive some tactical advantage over others by not revealing their 'hand')

and/or

C. are overwhelmed by / afraid of / don't trust others

and/or

D. are mentally/physically depressed (i.e. unhappy)

and/or

E. have no to little interest in others (Schizoid)

Some are A, some are B, some are C, some are D, some are E, and some are a combo of the five. This is just another reason why no Introversion description is likely to satisfy many of the people who score as introverts. Having little to no interest in others seems to be the most innocuous of the above introvert qualities, but generally people who have little to know interest with others tend to suffer from depression. To separate / cut yourself from others, as a general preference, is an indication of problems within you and/or with others. It doesn't mean you still can't contribute great things to the world (as many introverts have) but achieving things doesn't preclude you from having dysfunctions that you would benefit by fixing. Even if you are objectively better than everyone, you are reliant on others so it makes sense to have some connection to the world and share whatever your advantages are to the betterment of the world, just as you benefit from the efforts of others.

Typology flaws aside, it's unlikely for an individual to ever improve as a person or respond well to criticism about who they are if they've religiously embraced the notion that...

A. Personality type is fixed/unchangeable
B. Their personality type/preference is healthy (when it's actually not)

This site is devoted to objective research and honest deconstruction of human personality. I'm interested in helping people to become happier in an honest way. Informing someone they are great when they are troubled is a good way to make money as a personality consultant or author, but I really don't see any other benefit to it long term (for them or the world). As I've said, all the descriptions on this site are made up of items large sample sizes of individual types self rated higher on, there is no editorial involved (the only omitted items are ones with D-scores that are too low to merit inclusion). Most personality type descriptions you read on the web are not compiled in any remotely scientific way. They are based on and/or borrowed from books which themselves are based on a lot of subjective personal opinion or insufficiently small sample size personality testimonials, not to mention the inherent flaws in many of the personality systems themselves (Enneagram, Jung/MBTI, and even the Big 5).

Beyond the above, personality descriptions are never going to be one hundred percent accurate for each person (at best, they are pretty accurate for most people). Not everyone reads items to mean the same thing and not everyone is honest (consciously or unconsciously) about who they are. Also, the more you score between types the less accuracy you are going to find in the Jung and SLOAN descriptions.

If we are talking about Introversion vs Extroversion in terms of Carl Jung's original ideas. For the most part, both orientations are potentially equally dysfunctional, Jungian Extroversion is associated with Narcissistic, Histrionic, and Anti-Social personality disorders and being shallow and materialistic, so the middle, i.e. balance, is ideal. However, as previously discussed, Introversion/Extroversion as measured by the Big 5 and Myers Briggs tests (on my site, other sites on the web, or offline tests) shows greater correlations to the Vitality drive (with Big 5/MBTI extroversion correlating with a high Vitality orientation, and Big 5/MBTI introversion correlating with a low Vitality orientation) that's why the introvert descriptions on my site which are merely reflective of introvert self-ratings are more dismal than the extrovert descriptions.

One of the key Big 5/MBTI Extroversion vs. Introversion items is

Outgoing ooooooo Reserved

The correlations for the above item with the MOTIV system are:

Materialistic -.359
Offbeat -.050
Thinking .122
Intimate -.069
Vitality -.577

So, the more you rate yourself as Reserved (vs. Outgoing), on average, the more likely you are to not be Materialistic, but - to an even greater extent - the more likely you are to not be a happy/resilient/optimistic person, i.e. have high Vitality. I encourage you to go find a messageboard of Big 5/MBTI introverts on the internet if you want to observe/interact with people whose will to live is floundering.

Here are some of the items low Vitality scorers self rate far higher on...

I have little control over life.
At a certain point in life I became broken and I've never recovered.
I would be better off dead.
The image I present to others and who I really am are not the same.
Being optimistic leads to disappointment.

If you are open to the reality that Big 5/MBTI Introversion (or any other type score that yielded a more negative description) is in fact an indication of psychological and/or physical issues, conscious and/or unconscious unhappiness issues, and/or dysfunction, and you want to change/improve who you are, start working on the following two things:

1. Mental/Existential health - http://research.similarminds.com/the-motiv-personality-system/588
2. Physical/Organic health - http://research.similarminds.com/physical-exercise-chemical-exercise-and-maximizing-health/507

Further Clarification: The main thrust of this essay is to illustrate that the popular conception of Introversion/Extroversion is not consistent with Jung's original ideas/descriptions and that commonly found/understood Introversion descriptions are conflated with low Emotional Stability traits. Consequently, validation of Introversion as it's currently understood would be a validation of emotional instability. Stripping away the Emotional Stability biases found in most Introversion/Extroversion inventories, you are left with two equally flawed dispositions as demonstrated by the following average health items:

Average Health Introvert/Subjectivist Items
Appearance to me, doesn't really strike me as a priority.
I have no need for power over others.
I prefer a basic/simple/spartan living space to a high-end/luxury one.
External indicators of success such as power or recognition seem shallow to me.
I seem to care less than my peers about wealth, fame, and status.
I do not like to appear better than others.
I don't care about dressing nicely.
When I am depressed, I desire less social interaction

Average Health Extrovert/Materialist Items
I find being better than others (superior) rewarding.
I gravitate towards people I think have the most prestige.
You can never be too attractive/popular.
I value beauty the most.
It is important that I impress my superiors.
I expect other people to entertain me.
I choose romantic partners I can control.
When I am depressed, I desire more attention.

One can see a clear pattern of rejection of external value vs. over dependence on external value in the above items, both of which are potentially very nonconstructive cognitive tendencies (in my opinion and in Jung's). So, while I think Introversion as it's defined by the MBTI, Big 5, and most personality systems and authors is more pathological than healthy, when it comes to a non-emotional stability biased Introversion/Extroversion spectrum, I don't think either preference is optimal. I think a middle preference is the ideal.

Emotionally Healthy Extrovert/Materialist Items
I do things that impress me.
I believe that we should be tough on crime.
I am assertive romantically.

Emotionally Healthy Introvert/Subjectivist Items
I never worry about my looks.
I don't measure my success by public opinion.
I do not get upset easily.

Emotionally Unhealthy Extrovert/Materialist Items
I'm jealous of people that I think are better than me.
My self esteem is based on how attractive I am to others.
I get upset when things don't go my way.

Emotionally Unhealthy Introvert/Subjectivist Items
I find not having to be in control rewarding.
I am overly modest.
I am not special.

Additional Relevant Links:

Personality Type Descriptions

Bookmark and Share
Comments (52) Trackbacks (1)
  1. I took it 4 times and got the same thing… and i agree with the results.. pretty damn accurate..

  2. They are too negative. Saying what someone isn’t without saying what they are says little.

  3. Those who claim there’s too much negativity in the descriptors are whiners. I felt a little uncomfortable with them not because they were negative, but because they were strikingly accurate for my type. It’s better to be reminded we have a tendency to act without thinking at times. It might afford that extra second to think first the next time we’re tempted to do something we might regret later. Dominant feeling is a difficult thing to learn to keep in check and, ultimately impossible to do in a complete way, but being aware of it can only be helpful in my view.

  4. The INFP description make us look like obsessively weepy dorks and overall weirdos. :c

  5. The test was very accurate. Thanks for offering it. I’m not concerned about the negative aspects. Like the positive, I accept and acknowledge them.

  6. I read my Myers-Briggs profile after getting the results – I’m an ENTP. Then I found the SimilarMinds site. It gave me real and helpful insight on who I am. So many of the ENTP careers listed actually appeal to me. And, my least favored careers are like only my family might guess, but extremely truthful. I didn’t see the description as negative. It was just what it was. I am so different from other women that I’m a puzzle to myself. How did SimilarMinds come up with something that just nails who I am? I had to think about assassin. I have a strong respect for human life but that said, there are degrees of personality type – I’m nearer the edge of eNTp on some points, not so extreme, so I’ll give you that one. Dictator, I had to smile about. I’m sure it would be a benign dictatorship on some tropical island.

  7. I am an INTP, and I agree with with the INTP description, at least for me. I don’t know for sure if other INTP’s are “familiar with the dark side” or could be good assassins, but it may be true. It fit me perfectly, or at least I think it does. Do we truly understand our whole personalities? I don’t think so, but I think that INTP comes close.

  8. I loved it. I’m an INFP so i’m “attracted to sad things” but all these other websites tell you all the happy things about you and quite frankly its just not realistic to think that there are only good sides to everyone. I think it was very accurate and I’m dying to find a website where the talk about the bad parts of a personality bc you meet someone like a friend and every meeting is all peaches and cream in the beginning, and then they flip the script and its like whoa, where did this knife in my back come from! so yeah id like to see what i’m dealing with. the closest i got to this was “things they can do to irritate a group” or “under extreme stress” but no, i know people say “all people are inherently good…blah blah blah make me puke” no all people ALL people have a dark side and it dominates there actions in guarding themselves and their loved ones when push comes to shove. So i’d like to know what to watch out for in other types bc i know what i’m capable of. I may have the same personality of princess diana and mary the mother of jesus but i can def do some damage if something sacred to me is being attacked(that’s in my discription) but people don’t ever see the claws come out unless i’m pushed beyond my limit….seems to me other personality types are far more willing to break the harmony for lesser reasons.

  9. Very accurate, short test. I have tried many and almost without exception get the same results (eNTp). Many people (but never eNTps!) are uninterested in spending a lot of time on tests like this, so this one is concise and accurate, including result description, great job.

  10. Love it. ENFP. Proud of the positives and learning to manage the negatives, which I ultimately see as my true educators.

  11. I am an INTJ and the description is….well, negative. Very negative, but the thing is, that most of the descriptors fit me, despite how much I don’t like some of them. My Big 5 type is RLOEI as well. I am a loner. Mainly because I just can’t identify with the groups I am in all day(I am a High school student.).

  12. Are all the other commenters “Extroverted” and/or “Calm” people according to the test? Have they read the descriptions of “Reserved, Limbic” personalities? According to the test, I am one (a RLUAI), and there is NOT ONE positive personality trait in the description. Not I do not recognize myself in the description, mind you, I do. But I feel that it should end with the line “Now stop wasting food, oxygen and space and go kill yourself,” for apparently there is nothing positive or redeemable about being a RL*. Then I laughed at the list of suggested careers: come on guys, how can someone fitting the RLUAI description hold a job, let alone do a creative profession like those suggested? Thanks God I am not a RLUEN!

  13. Im an INTJ, believe or not i have dark side, and all people around me now knows about me really bad things, they usually hate me, because im “out of all of laws and order”, and somtimes i want to kill myself.Im alone, so alone that nobody can imagine…

  14. ENTP? Clever? Innovative? Nahhhh! More like sinister, sociopathic, paranoid, and schemer.

  15. As an ISFP on the extreme end, I was disheartened and freaked-out by the results because they were so accurate. I want to be an entrepreneur or investor (I need self-control–I prefer not to be controlled), but the results suggest that such career options would be impossible. This is funny (or maybe not) because, before coming across this website, I had done some self-reflection that revealed that I needed to work on everything that this website listed. It’s a freaking tall order, but it must be done.

  16. I am a INFJ type. It described me to a T. “Almost” everything was correct about me. I think everyone needs to take a test like the one i took. I learned more about who i am. I am I-Introverted, N-Intuitive, F- Feeling, J-Judging. I now know more about myself, and can work on what i think needs to be worked on for my personal self.

  17. I’m RCOEN and was not surprised at my type description ( I thought of them all as virtues) except for: “not known for generosity”, I am known as a very good tipper, sometimes 100% of the bill, but if you mean generosity to my fellow human being, some might say spot on and “avoids difficult reading material” I have read almost all the ancient and modern classics and astronomy and archeology are two my favorite reading subjects. My “Stumble!” readings are almost all scientific. Lastly, I admit to some annoyance that I even took the time to respond.

  18. INFP – I love it. Kinda negative, sure, but that is not a bad thing at all! Actually, that’s what attracted me more than the other descriptions I got – it mentioned a lot that the others didn’t and was shockingly accurate. It pointed out traits that I have attributed to myself as my own personal quirks and I was amazed. I applaud the creator of this. Pretty much everything was accurate.

  19. As an INFP, I found that I have traits of both RCUAI and RLUAI, but mainly RCUAI. While most of the descriptions I can agree with most of the types, they are too absolute and ‘black-and-white’; for instance has no confidence is a bit of an overstatement. The descriptions could also depend on where the person is with each of the individual traits. Also, there needs to be some more positive traits in some of the descriptions, because honestly if people with those types had all of those characteristics, the world would not function.

  20. As an “INFP,” I was astounded at the accuracy of the traits described. I found this to be most interesting, thank you.

  21. i am very surprise at the result that INFJ are always lonely that is very true its describe who really i am.

  22. Your questions seem to describe introverts negatively and extraverts more positively. How can that not be biased?

    Maybe if there were more options on your quiz for negative E traits such as, controlling, un self aware, self promoting, self aggrandizing, insensitive, Conformist,
    narcissistic, manipulative, uses people, domineering etc then it would show the darker side of all the types more equally. After all, people can only choose what is available to choose, and E types may not be as aware of their dark side as introverts!
    Also more positive introvert qualities to select for would help balance things out so the test is not skewed towards a negative view of introverts: creativity, spirituality, devotion, self awareness, intellect, connection to nature etc.
    Just a thought
    Zach (intp)

  23. I agree with Jay, they weren’t negative, and those that were- I would agree were true. Those who say they are negative aren’t very in tune with themself.

  24. LOve it!!!!
    Suits me really well!
    N Yup!! Its OBVIOUSLY TRUE that im an ENFP!!!
    Whatever personalities, just be OURSELVES!
    Appreciate it! CHEERS!!!

  25. INTJ–was kind of hurt by the description that was given of me…but let’s face it, it’s pretty accurate. i just haven’t met anyone who shares the same personality type in face to face..but i do see a few pople who share my personality over here.

  26. infp, one of best short descriptions…esp some of the quirks…

    i don’t really by the whole”healer” happy view of the type…

    the description is our outward view towards society, not necessarily our inward view of what *could be*
    which is quite grand… and why we are led to write/film/theatre…

    it’s just that our huge ideals don’t match up to society… but we don’t really think current society, whatever we were handed, is something that necessarily needs to be dealt with, we can live in our own worlds.

  27. I think your Jung Type description pretty accurate.
    but i don’t like your global 5 type.
    it’s seemed RLUEN is the worst and SCOAN is the best personality.
    read Please understand me by kiersey, good book about jung type.
    just curious what’s the type of the article writer?

    I’m INFP by the way.

  28. Wow – a lotof INFPs here and I have to admit – the results are spot on. Maybe because we are a small number in the population pool – others (and you have to admit as evidenced by the above comments) are rather hard on ourselves. I just go with who I am now – I am 57 and it is time to start being me and after so many years trying to figure out who I am – my family is still trying – I am happy to know my light and dark sides in order to do the best I can in my career (not assassin though – that is rather gruesome for my nature), treat my small (very small) group of friends with my better side.

  29. I was evaluated as INFJ @ 1.5% of population. Although I found the description slightly morose, I compared it with all the others and have to say it’s accurate … except for INTP being the most relatable, I feel. Although I may just like that one better because I’ve always wanted to be an assassin, heh.

    What personality type are you, Mr. Flynn?

  30. It was incredibly accurate, even down to the career choice. I’m planning on, after a long line of hard work and Air Force reqs to NASA, being an astronaut.

    Also, I seriously do hate happy people. Mostly relationship happy people. And it even pegged me for a science fiction lover.

    I think most people think it’s ‘negative’ because the truth hurts. Luckily, I already knew the truth. i’m FAMILIAR WITH THE DARK SIDEEEE. Ngl, I Darth Vadered after that.

  31. wow, a lot of INFP’s and heres another, spot on discription I was v impressed…

    I felt it knew me!

  32. I found the results of my test extremely accurate, kind of like my life story. I took it twice and got the same thing. The description I found on the similarminds test described me pretty well, as did some of the happier ones on other sites. (:

  33. I took this 3 times and i am INTJ all over, it pretty much describes me accurately. BTW they aren’t saying what you literally are like just some personality traits you have. If you answered honestly i don’t see a problem.

  34. Another INFP here. I don’t think that all their descriptions apply to me, personally, like:

    low self confidence (As a kid, maybe. But not now, in my 20’s)

    Can feel defective? (hmm… not sure about that one)

    wounded at the core (I dunno what they quite mean by that one… they callin’ me bleeding hearted or something?)

    prone to crying (again, as a kid maybe. But not since middle school)

    prone to pessimism? (I’m not sure about pessimism. But not optimism either)

    Still, these descriptions might be spot on for quite a number of INFP’s out there.

    Sure as HELL beats the saccharine, hyper-sensitive, overly empathetic, obsessive, weepy, people-pleasing, crybaby pansy-ass description of us that other websites use to caricaturize our personalities. Just cause Mr. rogers was an INFP doesn’t mean all INFP’s have to be Mr. Rogers; We’re not always so nice.

    Hell, some people even seem to belive that the only believable ways that an INFP could make a good villain in a work of fiction is if they’re an obsessed stalker or the worlds’ doormat looking for revenge. The only people who could really understand how an INFP could make a good villain were other INFP’s. I think other people tend to get us wrong a lot.

    So I still think the general description of us on this website is one of the better one’s you’ll be more likely to find on the internet. I especially like the ones:

    “attracted to sad things”
    “daydreams about people to maintain a sense of closeness”
    “more likely to support marijuana legalization” “can sabotage self”
    “likes the rain” “likes esoteric things”
    and “sometimes can’t control fearful thoughts”

    Those are some pretty interesting and accurate descriptions that you might not be so likely to think of!

  35. I think it is great fun, I’m a SCUAN and it was quite acurate, the only thing that maybe didnt fit was it said I was a high energy type, now I truly wish I was but dont think I qualify, unless you can count where I would like to be and mentally,but the physical energy ..not there, And the stuff I might call negative…On the nose!! Overall though… I’m happy to report I a pretty good person to know. LOL Good day all!

  36. I’m an INFP, (Took the test a few years ago, took it again more recently, same results) and I found this description very accurate~ I was disappointed there weren’t any more sinister or entertaining career options, though there was a guy a friend of mine thought was an INTJ, and we would always joke about him being the next world dictator. Plus he offered me China… C: (Only because it was to polluted for anyone else though.)

  37. Author, I want to thank you, so much, for staying true in giving these personality tests. Mine was extremely accurate, and I think the uniqueness of that compared to the paragaph long MBTI personality descriptions is exactly what you’ve explained — with them every possible personality result is accepted and good, simply because they want to make money. Thank you for being honest with me about my flaws; your short, descriptive words gave me a much better sense of what my answers actually reveal. I really can’t thank you enough just for staying true in this day and age, doing what you are doing. Stay true to what you know is right — THANK YOU for not succumbing to all the pressures of these dumb comments and complaints of people who are not willing/ready to face their weaknesses and unable to confront brokenness.

    Thank you for this article.
    – one messed up creature

  38. INTJ and RLOEI. They were both accurate and straight to the point. Loved the honesty. Loved the career choices. Loved it all. Great job.

  39. I find it absurd to claim that the only reason introverts (or those who consistently behave in low-energy, reserved, solitary etc. ways) behave the way they do is because they don’t know who they are, want to hide who they are, and/or don’t trust others. How about introverts who prefer a less social interaction? Obviously, being limbic or neurotic is a personality trait that has a judgment value attached to it. In general, it’s not a good thing – although I would argue that being excessively calm (extremely unemotional and unable to react appropriately or express emotions) is not, in general, good either. But implicitly stating that extrovert = good and introvert = bad is a foolish statement. Introversion is highly correlated with negative aspects, yes. That does not imply causality – that it is because of these negative elements that they are introverted, neccesarily.
    Your implications that there is a “good” personality type are questionable, to say the least. Should we all be extroverted, agreeable, calm, open to experience, and conscientious? What is “healthy?” There are so many questions that could be explored here. Looking at mere correlations is fascinating, indeed, but I am interested in what you would see after you go beyond the correlations and look at the implications.

    The Enneagram system often is harsh and negative (among other things), but it at least gives people ways to improve while remaining themselves. It would be more helpful to recognize that there can be healthy behavioral patterns that are very different – whether this behavior is contemplating alone or socializing.

    But yeah, thanks for describing why the descriptions are negative. Fascinating tests you have here. I just disagree with your conclusion that introverted behavior is inherently negative all the time (some of the time, with some people, I’ll give you that).

  40. I was assessed at INFP, and some parts of it ring quite true with me. However, though it may be true that introverts overall tend to be more pessimistic or depressed, it’s certainly not true for all, and it’s good to remember that. I, for example, was very confused by all the descriptions of me being sad and not confident in myself, both of which are quite untrue. In the end, it’s good to remember that humans are complex and cannot be accurately reduced to little series of numbers.

  41. I’m an INTP & RLUEI, both say pretty much the same thing: arrogant, impatient, irritable, less concerned with reality than what going on in my own head, difficult to know, quiet around strangers, analytic towards myself, behaviors of others, and just the world in-general, I like being alone so I can relax and concentrate on my own thoughts and perceptions without being interrupted by meaningless chatter, and I view people as a bit of an annoyance unless they gain my respect or capture my interest by attaining my affection. All-in-all, the descriptions on both was pretty accurate and well done, for myself at least. I have no complaints.

    The careers part was rather interesting and surprisingly accurate towards my hobbies: novelist, musician, songwriter, painter, scientist, astronomer, etc. I have 3 books that I’m currently in the process of writing, I play guitar, bass, and piano, I have 10 songs written by myself, 15 paintings I’ve done in the past year, my favorite author is Stephen Hawking, and I have $10,000 telescope plugged up to my computer that’s pointed out my bedroom window lol

  42. Thank You for all that you do. I find your opinion fascinating, and your information enlightening.

  43. I love it,love it, love it. ENFP :) really accurate,felt like my closest friends(myself) were describing me..

  44. I’m an INTJ, a RxOeI, and I’m very Empirical.
    While it would incorrect to say that I don’t doubt myself or that I have immense self-confidence, I have to say that I think I’m reserved because I DO know who I am. I know that if people got to know me, they probably wouldn’t like me as much. I’m not generous enough, I don’t like chick flicks like my friends do, I’m not interested in shoes, I don’t like parties, and I get internally pissed off when people start pushing their opinions on me rather than discussing things objectively. These things conflict with what most people want from me. Therefore, I’m better off to just shut up and let them yap away about Snookie and other boring topics. Now if someone brings up theories on human existence or why people act in particular ways, I’m up for having those conversations any day. Also, I just find it embarrassing to have people stare at me, so I prefer to talk with one person at a time than to have everyone look at me. I’ve also found that highly social people tend to be lacking in individual / personal / mental development anyway.

  45. INFP- I thought the descriptions were very accurate and help me realize many things about myself. Also it is very helpful as I am going to be applying to colleges soon and supports my reasoning in becoming an art teacher.

  46. INFJ. Almost perfect descriptions of me. I think people who are having issues with the negativity aspects should just relax. It’s not telling you who you are and what you are required to be like. And as far as careers go, all 3 of the careers I have been considering are on there, which I find both fascinating and frustrating (I can’t eliminate any!) Thanks for the lovely test. It provides a lot of fun as well as insight.

  47. The descriptions of my personality type, ISTP, have been a revelation!!
    Not that it brings immediate happiness, but instead is more like a much needed mirror. I think in the long run it’s better to see the positive AND the problematic aspects so that I can decide what place they have in my life. So often, it’s hard to get this objective feedback. Thank you!!!

  48. I’m an INTP and wow that description was like reading my future autobiography or something. It’s a bit comforting to know there are others that share the same personality type and that i’m not the only one to hide away in my false reality due to the state of the world (which is awful). Scifi fan? Check. “Familiar with the darkside?” It’s disappointing to realize the extent of knowledge I have over gov’t conspiracies, occult magic, and mythology (which btw I don’t believe in but is still fascinating to read). I especially love the favorable job professions; comic book artist, game designer, computer scientist, freelance artist/writer, philosopher, historian…assassin. How the hell did you manage to sum up my existence into some trivial little personality assessment. My computer is swamped with files and files on useless subjects that one day i’ll hopefully master. On a side note I wonder how many hipster teens there are that are INTPs. The majority ARE liberal daydreamers inspired to break conventional norms.

    Anyway, after reading a majority of the descriptions, yes some were…sadder than others, but I don’t think you can really be upset over some test you took online. A word most popularly describing me is ‘loner’, but I understand that it’s just part of my personality, might as well accept it. Anyway I’m off on a ramble, awesome test, very satisfied with the results!

  49. Interesting, but not very deep – each description is more like a verbal montage giving an impression of a type.

    I get the need for a firm empirical basis, but that’s all that these seem to have going for them – the problem with such a strong empiricist stance is that it encourages taking things at face value. In particular, I find the conclusions synthesized from the reduction of types to certain personality trends to be quite shallow.

    It’s well and good to see yourself as a deconstructor of unproductive myths, but I think you often go too far by depicting personality type almost as akin to a game in which ones score is to be maximized. The most problematic assumption here is that by being correlated to certain disorders, certain type preferences are inherently faulty. I hesitate to speculate on the exact sociological biases driving this (actually quite popular) assumption, since they do vary by culture – I believe you would know best.

    I would also question your ontological reduction of personality types to clusters of personality traits. This is problematic especially because it can easily do more harm than good to posit a reduction of complex psychological phenomena to mere composites. As to your concern about abuses of the MBTI (self-aggrandizement in particular), especially motivated by commercial interests, I agree, but strongly believe there are better means.

  50. I’m an INTJ and while I’d say most of the description fits me I wouldn’t say that I am generally unhappy or pessimistic, nor would I say that I don’t think that I am weird and others do. Perhaps one could say that I am very self aware and at peace with who I am and therefor I am not pessimistic nor am I unhappy? Also I have a very close range between thinking and feeling and also perceiving and judging.


Leave a comment


Tags

Recent Articles